ranman
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Post by ranman on Sept 15, 2006 14:22:03 GMT -5
A lot of times bipolar/manic depression/clinical depression and/or ADD can be triggered by epilepsy or the anti-convulsive meds.
Some of the symptoms include.....paranoia.......aggresive and/or violent behavior.......no respect........no motivation...........no initiative.......always want to sleep......poor eating habits......spending money just for the sake of spending...etc.
Very often kids get into trouble with the law etc. and everybody is quick to call him a bad kid when it is an undiagnosed medical problem that can be treated with meds.
I have a 20 year old son that was dianosed with "Bi-Polar" (manic depression) when he was 12 and he has been putting this family through hell.
So, seeing it for myself as well as the feedback I've had from other ppl, I definately feel that the two are connected.
Randy
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Post by Mandi on Sept 15, 2006 15:56:22 GMT -5
Randy... I know we've talked about this before, but I totally agree with you on the connection. I find that there a lot of weird connections to EP that I never thought of.
I've noticed Bi-Polar tendencies in myself and it's been mentioned to me before. For the most part, I am functional without big dips in manic or depressive episodes. The week of my period however, I'm all over the map. It's rough, but I really only have to worry about it one week out of a month, so I'm not gonna complain too much.
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Post by fourstar on Sept 15, 2006 17:42:45 GMT -5
I am not so sure I agree that Bi polar and epielspy go hand in hand. But its an interesting theory.
fourstar
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ranman
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Post by ranman on Sept 16, 2006 0:30:50 GMT -5
Fourstar,
Actually they are connected. It's documented on the WEB, I lost the link but I think Jenn may have it.
This is not to say that just b/c you have epilepsy, you'll get bipolar or visa-versa.
It just means that if you have EP, you have a greater chance of having bipolar disorder.
Randy
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Post by Mandi on Sept 20, 2006 23:00:53 GMT -5
My own personal opinion is that any time you have a disorder of the brain you are more likely to have emotional disorders as well. The brain is in a constant fight with itself and can cause all sorts of issues. This is why so many of the Anti-Ep drugs can cause these weird psychological side effects because they are messing with the brain and how it works.
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Post by fourstar on Sept 21, 2006 12:23:19 GMT -5
My bestfriend in NYC has a bi polar condition. Even if the meds made me nuts for a day or so. Because my husband would tell me I was losing it so I wouldn't last too long on the med. I would never have his problems or feelings. Depression is just not me nor is it how I deal with my problems. Most of the pple I have met on the boards since 97 have problems with their meds not depression I would say 5% have depression and epilepsy.
My other best friend in NYC has bi polar ,and depression on her mothers side that runs thru generations and no szs. Her aunt who didn't have bi polar had Parkinson's. Her father (who should rest in peace ,he passed away) had a grand mal while having a heart attack and only while having heart attacks after he was 65 yrs old and thats a speciality in itself.
When the drs in NYC tried to insinuate I was depressed ,they didn't like what I had to say to them at all. Theirs a big difference being toxic on a med and the med making you depressed , and having problems coping with life all the time.
I do find it insulting that a Dr would try to label a patient who has epilepsy depressed . These new Drs are nothing like my first Dr who taught me how to live despite the epilepsy. They are fast to label their patients. But they have no time to invest making sure they live their lives to the fullest. Believe me, I let them know that too. I would never want them near my child,they could never offer a child or an adult the attitude I was taught from my Dad and my first Dr." epilepsy is no excuse".
For all their knowledge they are useless.
Riva
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ranman
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Post by ranman on Sept 21, 2006 15:25:33 GMT -5
Riva, GREAT post. I'm with you 100% on that one:
"When the drs in NYC tried to insinuate I was depressed ,they didn't like what I had to say to them at all. Theirs a big difference being toxic on a med and the med making you depressed , and having problems coping with life all the time.
I do find it insulting that a Dr would try to label a patient who has epilepsy depressed . These new Drs are nothing like my first Dr who taught me how to live despite the epilepsy. They are fast to label their patients. But they have no time to invest making sure they live their lives to the fullest. Believe me, I let them know that too. I would never want them near my child,they could never offer a child or an adult the attitude I was taught from my Dad and my first Dr." epilepsy is no excuse".
For all their knowledge they are useless.
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Post by springmang on Sept 27, 2006 17:58:56 GMT -5
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Post by fourstar on Sept 27, 2006 20:00:25 GMT -5
If you reread what you wrote, you will see it says the epilepsy meds trigger depression, and instead of having a med change the idiot Drs keep you on a med that makes you depressed and add anti depressents and label you depressed.
I know better than to let any fool Dr do that to me. You need to be pro active.
I will stick to my opionion that your quality of life depends on you being pro active in your care and not taking a med that brings on
other illness , which will only make you toxic in the end anyway.Its vicious cruel cycle because the Drs aren't interested .As one
Canadian Specialist told me "There's no such thing as side effects, or His other quote was no one dies from status epilepsy". That moron runs the Montreal Nuerological Instuite. H ealso had interesting views on vitamins and dental health.
I rest my case.
Riva
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